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	I read this question on an atheist website the other day: "How can we be at total peace in heaven when at the same time our relatives are burning in hell?

It is because we will fully understand that it was their will to go to hell, after they've made a total discloser, fully informed decision. ("...every knee will bow...") The Garden of Eden is such an example of God fully respecting the sovereignty of man's free will decisions.


Just an observation: most of us claim to believe in the sovereignty of "free will," but are always interested in using force. It would probably be safe to say that those of us here have at sometime prayed to the effect of 'Lord, bring(cause/force) revival to fall upon such and such a people or person.'

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Goober_JIL wrote: It is because we will fully understand that it was their will to go to hell, after they've made a total discloser, fully informed decision. ("...every knee will bow...") The Garden of Eden is such an example of God fully respecting the sovereignty of man's free will decisions Maybe I'm guilty of thinking too much but even though people have free will, some don't fully comprehend how horrible hell is and would never choose to go there. So I don't think people will ever want to go there and I don't think their relatives and friends will ever be at peace knowing that that's where they wanted to go and will be forever. And even if it was their sole will to walk into hell, how could I be at peace knowing that billions are screaming in agony and have no hope of mercy forever?

(If, every knee shall bow at that time then, every knee should bow now.)

For every knee to bow, the owners of those knees will have to know the truth. Just because we cannot conceive or refuse to believe the concept of some choosing such a thing does not mean that it is not so.

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Isaiah 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear. Romans 14:11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. Philippians 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

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	Isaiah 66: 23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD. 24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcasses of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

Not only will we know of their suffering, but EVERY Sabbath we will go and view their carcasses and worms in the Lake of Fire. And yet, we will be at peace. In our current state of deprivation we cannot or do not want to believe this. IMHO: it is because we do not respect other peoples choices. This is makes no more sense than those people that actively seek to contract the HIV/AIDS virus as a trophy to be honored, but they are out there right now pursuing their goal. Doh! Sick To us this is a paradox. We must take it on faith, just the same as we do everlasting life. Life without end is also a concept we can not truly understand now, but take by faith.

where does scripture say that we will not have flesh in the everlasting?

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Luke 24: 36 And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you. 37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit. 38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts? 39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

This is after His resurrection. Jesus is stating that He has flesh.

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	1Cr 15:50 ¶ Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

Jesus said that He was flesh and bone not flesh and blood, there is a difference. His blood was shed to erase the sins of His people - all of it was shed, just like was demanded of the animals that only covered sin.

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Notice also that there is no sun or moon. Rev 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb [is] the light thereof. And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.

It says that there is no NEED for light from the Sun or moon, not that there will be no Sun or moon.

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	John 1: 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

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	Are you trying to say that flesh isn`t included in flesh and blood?

No, I'm saying that there is a difference between "flesh and blood" and "flesh and bone." Jesus did not get a new new body upon His Ascension, the body of His resurrection on Resurrection Day is the body He will have for all eternity.

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	Genesis 9:4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.

All the passages that we've posted so far, tells me that our new bodies will have flesh, will have bone, but will not have blood.

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	1Cr 15:50 ¶ Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

It would be clearer if it was translated as '... flesh with blood ...' or '... flesh and also blood...'

Further evidence that argues against His body still containing any blood would be the fact that there are still nail prints in His hands and feet, and that the hole is still in His side. For if His body still contained blood He would continue to bleed from them. And His body, containing any blood, would have been an unacceptable sacrifice.

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	I thought Jesus was resurrected in his regular body and He told Mary not to touch Him, until he went to His Father, where He put on His glorified body. Something like that....I am no Bible Scholar and am not sure what I am saying, but He was gone from the tomb and just the linen was there, so all of Him was resurrected right?

His old body was transformed into His glorified body, same for the Saints that were resurrected at the same time, as the dead will be at the Rapture, we that remain and are still alive will be completely transformed in the air, by the time meet Jesus on the Clouds.