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	ORIGINAL: HansC One of my professors was a very well respected scholar of ...

this is when i see red flags

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	ORIGINAL: HansC I made it my mission to be his personal thorn in the flesh.

thank you

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	ORIGINAL: HansC Concerning the Barna report, I read I think around last Sept. in Time where they said that nearly 70% of evangelical Christians believe that a "good" person of any religion will go to heaven. Hans

i'm one of them... i won't be surprised to find even aethists in heaven.

Really? What makes you think that? I am of the remaining 30%.

	Prophetess wrote:
	Really? What makes you think that? I am of the remaining 30%.

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	Romans 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

IMHO: some atheists don't necessarily reject a universal power or life in the here-after, but what they reject is what they've heard about God from the different religions or organized religion.

Now here's a thought, not saying I'm convinced of it though 100%...my mind works in weird ways like that...

say when Christ comes back and we have the millenium...this is before judgement day, right?

Say during that time all are raised into their new bodies and all that with the new earth the Lord is among us and those that didn't "know" or choose in their hearts are given the Word?

Then, when the judgement is called, the sheep and goats divided, those that stand FOR satan are given their lot, satan is thrown in the fire forever and we reign with Him. It's a timing thing. What we sow here we reap in heaven--that stands through out the ages I believe.

Just a thought...

SHEEP>>>In my honest opinion, I have no idea how to respond to that one because I am highly confused (self-admitted) about the millenial reign things. I have been researching it and I cannot honestly say that I can stand on any one of the views 100% because of the timing of it. Amillenial, and post millenial. There is strong evidence of both. I will get back to that in a sec. As a matter of fact, we should start a thread about that because I feel the need to figure it out.

GooberJIL>>>In my honest opinion I don't think atheist can get into heaven because Christ says that no one can get the the Father but through the son. He also says that Christ will not return again to all have heard his Gosepl. SO at one time or another, atheist would have had to heard the Gospel and reject it. Those people who reject the true Gospel will be in deep doo-doo.

2 the 2
9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

The only truth is Christ. A higher power is not enough. Even amongst other religions. So as I see it, those who reject the Bible truth will more than Likely be decieved into worshipping the "false one" because He is something they can see and hear as aspposed to having faith in the things unseen or heard of...

Now a good topic of conversation is "what is the strong delusion" I used to think one thing, but now I am headed into another direction

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SHEEP>>>In my honest opinion, I have no idea how to respond to that one because I am highly confused (self-admitted) about the millenial reign things. I have been researching it and I cannot honestly say that I can stand on any one of the views 100% because of the timing of it. Amillenial, and post millenial. There is strong evidence of both. I will get back to that in a sec. As a matter of fact, we should start a thread about that because I feel the need to figure it out. GooberJIL>>>In my honest opinion I don't think atheist can get into heaven because Christ says that no one can get the the Father but through the son. He also says that Christ will not return again to all have heard his Gosepl. SO at one time or another, atheist would have had to heard the Gospel and reject it. Those people who reject the true Gospel will be in deep doo-doo. 2 the 2 9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. The only truth is Christ. A higher power is not enough. Even amongst other religions. So as I see it, those who reject the Bible truth will more than Likely be deceived into worshiping the "false one" because He is something they can see and hear as apposed to having faith in the things unseen or heard of... Now a good topic of conversation is "what is the strong delusion" I used to think one thing, but now I am headed into another direction

Here's the thing. BTW: none of this is really written with Crayola crayons in scripture. One can not reject the truth if the truth has never been presented to them. A partial truth is a whole lie. For we know in part, and we prophesy in part, but when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

Chew on that for a bit, please.




Start the thread!! Start the thread!!

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Now here's a thought, not saying I'm convinced of it though 100%...my mind works in weird ways like that... say when Christ comes back and we have the millenium...this is before judgement day, right? Say during that time all are raised into their new bodies and all that with the new earth the Lord is among us and those that didn't "know" or choose in their hearts are given the Word? Then, when the judgement is called, the sheep and goats divided, those that stand FOR satan are given their lot, satan is thrown in the fire forever and we reign with Him. It's a timing thing. What we sow here we reap in heaven--that stands through out the ages I believe. Just a thought...

I'm tracking with you. IMHO: Part of the events prior to/of the judgment of the unrighteous (White Throne) will involve "total revelation." This 'total revelation' will be an opportunity for everyone that was not raptured to know exactly who did what and why, and with what heart from day one of 'the beginning'; God, Satan, and man.

It is kind of a Thomas thingy.

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	John 20: 27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. 28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. 29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

The result of this total revelation will either be Thomas' reaction(belated belief) or will be Satan's reaction(continued disbelief). Those that have seen and still do not believe will judge themselves and cast themselves into the Lake of Fire. God/Jesus will judge no one. Satan has already condemned all. That only leaves one as ones own judge. I see God's plan much like a court proceeding.

did i really just encourage Prophetess??? ..... j/k

Really, start the thread.

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Quote: ORIGINAL: HansC One of my professors was a very well respected scholar of ... this is when i see red flags Quote: ORIGINAL: HansC I made it my mission to be his personal thorn in the flesh. thank you Quote: ORIGINAL: HansC Concerning the Barna report, I read I think around last Sept. in Time where they said that nearly 70% of evangelical Christians believe that a "good" person of any religion will go to heaven. Hans i'm one of them... i won't be surprised to find even aethists in heaven.

Hey Goober, does HansC post here? If he does you oughta ban the guy outta principle.....he's the dude that banned me here:

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Actually, don't ban him! I'd love to get him in a neutral setting and set him straight on the Catholic "trinity" doctrine and why it's from the pits of hell and the Biblically true and accurate doctrine of the "Godhead."

HansC is a Biblically deficient (yes, I know that's harsh, but it's accurate especially when being banned for no reason, The guy just don't like us SDA's).

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Hey Goober, does HansC post here? If he does you oughta ban the guy outta principle.....he's the dude that banned me here: Only registered users can see links on this forum! Register or Login on forum! Actually, don't ban him! I'd love to get him in a neutral setting and set him straight on the Catholic "trinity" doctrine and why it's from the pits of hell and the Biblically true and accurate doctrine of the "Godhead."

HansC does not post here, but I do C & P four of his threads. He has been a blessing to many people, including myself even tho we don't see eye to eye on some non-salvation issues. I just can't see beating someone up over something that will not effect their salvation, IMHO that calls for prayer that God's truth is revealed to all.